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State of the Black Church

Have you heard that the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. has been taken out of context? That's the spin that the left-wing spin machine is trying to got us to swallow. That the Reverend Wright is really a good man, and that if you took his sermons in their totality, you would reach the conclusion that he's not a hate filled bigot.


I would grant anyone the benefit of the doubt if what they said was not that own words. If they were quoting someone else and people said that they were theirs. If they were having a bad day and said something out of anger and asked for forgiveness right away. Or if they were being pressured to say something they didn't believe. But none of this is true in the case of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.


Reverend Wright Jr. is a wordsmith. He crafts everything he says with the precision of a brain surgeon. Nothing ever escapes his lips from the pulpit that he doesn't absolutely wants to say. So the idea that he was somehow misquoted is utterly ridiculous.


At this weekends State of the Black Church conference in Texas the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. was called a prophet by many of the attendees. So now bigots are now prophets. That's great news for the KKK and the Nazi party. Their leaders aren't vile, hate filled, evil racists, their just misquoted and misunderstood prophets. What a wonderful world we live in today. Good is bad and bad is good. 

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Barack Obama: Concerning Racism in America

The following is a copy of a letter that I am sending to the office of Senator Barack Obama.


Senator Barack Obama

713 Hart Senate Office Building

Washington, D.C. 20510 


Dear Senator Obama,


For my entire life I have believed that when I saw a black man, I was seeing a man. I have never regarded people of other races as somehow different or inferior to me. I've always felt that at our core all people want the same thing. We all want to live our lives in peace, to be treated with dignity, and to be able to improve our standing in life. And when I became a Christian thirty years ago, I came to believe that when I meet another Christian I was seeing a brother in the Lord. That as a fellow believer, our shared experience with Jesus Christ has erased our racial differences totally and completely.


However, now that the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. have come to light, I think I need to reconsider my previously held belief. I had no idea that the theology taught in black churches was so different than the teachings that I have been exposed to. I didn't know that there was any such thing as "Black Liberation Theology". I didn't know that the Jesus I believe in had been colorized and divided into a Jesus for blacks and a Jesus for whites.


I guess I should thank you for running for President. If it wasn't for your candidacy, I would have remained blissfully unaware of the divisive and hateful teachings taking place in the "black church". I would have gone through life feeling a false sense of unity with people that at their core hate me because I'm white. That no matter what Jesus has done to bring us together, that race is a gap that God himself can't bridge. That there are "theologians" who don't want to be members of "one Nation under God".


Senator Obama, I don't know if I will ever get over the hurt I feel after hearing the words of your minister. And while you didn't say these words yourself, you remained a member of Rev. Wright's church for the twenty years. And now, you have the audacity to ask me to accept that your spiritual mentor never talked with you about his beliefs. That you had no idea that Rev. Wright preached a hateful and divisive series of messages during years and years of ministry. And that you were conveniently absent every time the Rev. Wright was poisoning the minds of his congregants. 


Senator Obama, I listened to your weak kneed excuses for the last several days. I find it insulting that you think I'm so dumb, that I'm going to believe you didn't know the theology that your own pastor was teaching. I guess you want me to believe that for the last twenty years Rev. Wright tailored his messages for your hearing. And that he cleverly managed to keep you from becoming aware of his hate filled, anti-American rhetoric. Seriously, you must think that the American people are the biggest fools on the planet. But the truth of the matter is that I'm not a fool, and neither are the American people. And while I don't know if the current situation will prevent you from becoming the Democratic nominee for President, the words of your pastor are going to follow you for the rest of this campaign.


The sad thing is that it would have been nice to see a true post racial candidate running for President of the United States, but that's not possible now. Your affiliation with a "grievance minister" makes it impossible for our country to move away from the past. I have heard your supporters screaming about all the evils of America's past on the national news. In their minds America is still guilty for slavery, discrimination, and all the activities of a small group of violent radicals that targeted black people in the far south. Now we find that America's guilt didn't end in the past, that our country is guilty for AIDS, crack, and foreign policies that caused 9/11, and a whole host of things that are too numerous to list. So, no matter what America does to heal, people like Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. and his adherents will always make sure the wounds of the past remain open. And you, as a member of his church, are just as responsible for preventing the healing of our country as the people who promote this venomous ideology.



Respectfully,


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Response to "I Agree"

Below please find comments I wrote to Adrews comments on my blog entitled Clinton and Super Delegates Go Nuclear

It's nice to know that there's like minded people out there. After reading your comments I agree that the "super delegates" could reach an independent concussion about Obama's electability. 


What I'm afraid of is that no matter how they abandon Obama that there's going to be violence. I believe that people are so emotionally invested in Senator Obama that any outcome that doesn't have him at the top of the ticket is going to trigger a very bad reaction. 


The bad thing is that the "super delegates" would be acting entirely within Democratic Party rules. The thing that really bothers me about these rules is that even after winning the most delegates and the popular vote the nomination can be taken away from the winner. And they call themselves the "Democratic Party". This sounds more like the Communist Party to me.


I'd like to know what the heck the Democratic leadership was thinking when they passed these rules. How can any party allow one group of delegates to be set apart, and above all the other delegates. Why waste the time, money, and effort of going through the nomination process when all the delegates that you've won can be overridden by party bosses and insiders. The "super delegates" should just come forward now and stop wasting the nations time and let us know which candidate they're going to support.


The problem that the Democratics face now is that, no matter what the rest of the primaries produce Hillary Clinton can't win. Under the apportionment system Senator Clinton can't overtake Barack Obama. There just aren't enough delegates left to win the nomination outright. So the only chance Clinton has is to win the popular vote. This would give the "super delegates" the cover they need to throw the nomination to Hillary.


Up until the revelation of the sermons of the "Rev." Jeremiah Wright Jr. I thought there was no stopping the Obama train. But now that we've heard how that for twenty years Barack Obama sat in the pews of this hate filled preacher, maybe people will wake up from this hypnotic spell they've been under for the last several months. 


The question for the Republican Party is which candidate would John McCain do better against? Both the Democratic candidates would present some very difficult obstacles. Both Clinton and Obama are going to play the victim card. Obama's people are going to claim some sort of racism, and Clinton will cry sexism. So McCain people are going to have to walk on egg shells during this whole campaign season.


Thank you for your kind words about my blog. I really do this to blow off stream. I never really expected anyone to take notice of my positions and after reading your posts I see that we have a lot in common. I just hope that we are in the mainstream and not just preaching to the choir.


Below are Andrews comments to my blog:

My one difference from your position is that I don't think it is Hillary driving it.

I think some democratic insiders may actually have independently decided that Obama is not electable and started looking for cover should they go over to Hillary.

After PA and TX, they had that cover, as they could claim that momentum was behind Hillary.

Then came Ferraro and Hillary's mea culpa speech, and that cover vanished.

Now, with this Rev. Wright thing, they may be back in Hillary's corner. It depends on how long it stays in the press, and how poorly Obama continues to respond.

If you are interested, my take is here:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2008/03/14/changing_predici tions.thtml

And my earlier take was here:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2008/03/05/in_the_hands_of_ the_superdelegates.thtml

Essentially I agree with your interpretation, I just think that, though she way benefit from it, not all the energy behind the superdelegate defections is Hillary's. I think some other insiders may be worrying about Obama's chances as well.

And, completely off topic: I have only read two of your posts so far, but I like the blog. 
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The Audacity of Audacity

How long is it going to take before America gets the message that Barack Obama is not the candidate of "Change"? Barack Obama attended a church for twenty years with a minister that preached the old politics of hate. For twenty years, Barack Obama sat in the pews listening to sermons filled with Black separatist hatred. Senator Obama listened to twenty years of anti-American rhetoric in the form of religious messages. For twenty years, Barack Obama listened to vile, poisonousness, despicable language designed to pull people apart, not to put them together. And what did Barack Obama do during those twenty years? Did he talk to his pastor and ask him to stop being so hateful? Did he make any public statements about how this man was hurting his congregation? Did he get up and walk out with his wife and children in hand? No, he stayed a member in good standing. He remained a member of a church that teaches hatred and racial supremacy for the last twenty years. 


So instead of leaving this church in disgust, Barack Obama wrote the book "The Audacity of Hope" with his hate filled pastor. And now that some of Obama's pastor's sermons are finally out in the open, what does the Senator have to say? He says, I was never at church when "Reverend" Wright attacked America as the worst country in the world. He claims that he was conveniently absent for twenty years while his pastor said our government created AIDS to kill people of color, that America's foreign policy caused 9/11, and our country addicted Blacks to crack cocaine so we could put them in prison.


I don't know about you, but this kind of sounds like the Germans saying, we didn't know why there's always smoke coming out of those chimneys. We didn't know why the trains arrived full and left empty. And SS guards saying they were just following orders. It didn't work for the Germans, and it's not going to work now. Barack Obama can claim that he had no idea what "Rev." Wright was preaching for the last twenty years. He can claim that every time his pastor was preaching his hate filled sermons, he wasn't at church that Sunday. He can swear that he never heard any of "Rev. Wright's messages but I'm not buying it.


What Barack Obama wants us to accept, is that he never attended one service in twenty years, where any of the sermons in question were preached. Then he wants us to accept that no one ever told him what his pastor of twenty had preached on any given Sunday. Then he wants us to believe that the man that helped him write a book, never expressed any of his beliefs while they worked together for hours and hours. I guess that Barack Obama thinks that we are a nation of fools. I guess Senator Obama thinks we are the dumbest people in the world. But I'm not a fool and I'm not dumb either. And I pray to God that our country comes out of this long national stupor and wakes up to who Barack Obama really is before its too late.

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Senator Obama talked about on Hannity and Colmes

I am a long time viewer of the Hannity and Colmes program on the Fox News network. When you watch this type of program often I as do, you would think that there'd be a point where you aren't shocked anymore. But I still haven't managed to reach that point yet. It always amazes me how Sean and Allen can just talk past each other. I don't know how you can face someone night after night like these two characters do and totally ignore each other and their guests points of view. All Sean and Allen care about is sticking to their points. 


As a example recently, Sean Hannity has been talking about the close relationship between Barack Obama and his controversial pastor. Sean's point of view is that Obama's pastor is a divisive person and teaches a racially offensive theology that most Christians would totally reject. On the other hand Allen Colmes repeatedly says that people shouldn't engage in guilt by association. 


So here's my problem with how Sean and Allen are handling this subject. With Sean trying to use this issue as a negative point against Obama, he's causing people to become desensitized to how serious this issue really is. And with Allen using the guilt by association argument he's trying to insulate Obama from people looking into the nature of the relationship between him and his pastor.


I think the guilt by association argument is totally specious. Guilt by association is a legal term. It's used to protect people from being considered criminals just because they know someone that's committed a crime. This term was never meant to protect someone from public scrutiny because of the company they choose to keep. And I think that's why if Barack Obama wins the domination of the Democrat Party all the teaching and beliefs the Rev Jeremiah Wright Jr. will need to be examined. As a nation we need to understand why Senator Obama has chosen to have a minister counseling him that has such an extreme spiritual point of view. I wouldn't be so concerned about this issue if it stood entirely alone, but it doesn't.


When you couple the teachings of Senator Obama's church and with his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin, his refusal to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, and his wife's remark that "for the first time in her adult life she's proud of America". Then add in the extreme Afro-centric teachings of the Trinity United Church of Christ then you can begin to gain some needed insight into how Barack Obama functions. I'm not saying that the Senator is an evil person because of his pastor and church. However, I believe that Senator Obama has a world view that is outside the mainstream beliefs of the average US citizen. And he certainly doesn't follow the teachings of any mainstream Christian denomination. So if it turns out that Barack Obama ends up being our President I hope that's it only after our country understands the he's not some fresh faced kid from Illinois bringing a message of hope and change. We should all understand that Barack Obama is a person that has influences in his life that don't fit into the vast majority of how our fellow countrymen think and live. Please at least take the time to get to know this candidate before you go out and vote for him.

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Jews Should Fear Barack Obama

I grew up in a mixed Christian and Jewish neighborhood. I had many close Jewish friends throughout my childhood. One of my best friends was Danny Rosenthal. It was during my experience with the Rosenthal family I learned how Danny's family suffered at the hands of the Nazi's during the Second World War. I have seen the pain of the Jewish people because of the Holocaust up close and personal. So because of this childhood experience I have always been a strong supporter of the State of Israel. And that is why I am so upset why Barack Obama's church honored Lewis Farrakhan with a lifetime achievement award.


For the life of me I don't understand how anyone of good conscience can belong to a church that would give Lewis Farrakhan any kind of award. Can you imagine John McMCain being a member of a church that gave a lifetime achievement award to David Duke? The media would go totally ballistic and rightfully so. Lewis Farrakhan is a racist of the worst kind. He spreads the same kind of hate you would find in any KKK pamphlet. So I would like someone to explain to me how the media can totally dismiss the fact that Senator Obama belongs to a church that honors a man that hates Jews, Whites, or anyone else that doesn't fit into his narrow view of the world.


For your edification I have copied the following article from Renewamerica.us. This article written by Sharon Hughes. 


Barack Obama's very controversial pastor



Sharon Hughes
Sharon Hughes
February 1, 2008


Barack Obama's friend and pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, said in a 2003 church publication, "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared,' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

But Barack Obama says he is "proud" of Rev. Wright and values their 20-year-long friendship, even if they "don't agree on everything."

Wright, who performed Obama's marriage and baptized his daughters, is also his close spiritual advisor. Barack's 2004 keynote speech to the Democratic National Convention was based on a sermon by Wright called "Audacity to Hope," which also inspired Barack's book, "The Audacity of Hope."

In the November-December 2007 issue of Trumpet, their church's publication, Rev. Wright praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who has described whites as "blue-eyed devils" and Jews as "bloodsuckers." In the magazine Wright wrote, "He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest...and will be remembered as one of the 20th and 21st century giants of the African-American religious experience. His integrity and honesty have secured him a place in history as one of the nation's most powerful critics...and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose."

Farrakhan's photo is on the cover of that church magazine, accompanied with the headline: "The Minister truly epitomized greatness." Wright also presented Farrakhan with a "lifetime achievement" award during a church gala in Chicago, "For his commitment to truth, education and leadership." (See Wright's video honoring Farrakhan).

Recently Obama distanced himself from Farrakhan, but not from his pastor or his praise for Farrakhan. Why not?

For the record, it was Farrakhan who said:

  • "They call (Hezbollah) terrorists, I call them freedom fighters. No one asks why they would do such a thing. Why would they do such a thing? What has driven them to this point? That's what the UN, the U.S. and Europe doesn't want to deal with because the Zionists have control in England, in Europe, in the United States and around the world."

  • "The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years."

  • "Hitler was a very great man. He wasn't great for me as a Black man but he was a great German and he rose Germany up from the ashes of her defeat by the united force of all of Europe and America after the first World War."

  • "Now, that nation of Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under His holy and righteous name."

  • "Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET?... Everything that we built, they have. The mind of Satan now is running the record industry, movie industry and television. And they make us look like we're the murderers; we look like we're the gangsters, but we're punk stuff."

  • "This Koran says that the Jews have altered the word of God out of its place. They did not want the masters of the people to know what Jesus really said, what Moses really said, because then you wouldn't have a yardstick to measure their deviations."

  • "The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes."

Farrakhan also claims to have received revelations directly from God, and conferred with the dead Elijah Muhammed while "on a wheel that you call a UFO," about secret meetings of Ronald Reagan with his cabinet. (Click here to hear audio of this claim).

Farrakhan's views are not only anti-Semitic and racist, but his efforts have not been to integrate Black America into mainstream America, have not been to unite — something Barack Obama claims he will do as President of the United States.

Clearly, such views are dangerous to be affiliated with on any level if you're a candidate running for the President of the United States — the President of all the people of the United States.

Do you think Hillary will use this information against Barack? Absolutely, if she thinks she needs to, and that it will help her win.

Interestingly, Obama took back his invitation for his pastor to pray at the launch of his campaign, apparently fearing controversy from Wright's Afrocentric teachings, and many are wondering if he wins the presidency, will he ask his close spiritual advisor, Rev. Wright, to pray at his inauguration?

While emails questioning Obama's Muslim roots flood the world-wide-web, and he answers those by pointing out that he is a member ofTrinity United Church of Christ, an Afrocentric church that preaches what the New York Times calls Black liberation theology, a good question to ask is why does he continue to affiliate with a church, a pastor, that honors Louis Farrakhan, a man who called Judaism "a gutter religion," the Pope an "Antichrist" and Adolf Hitler "a wickedly great man," and said that "White people are potential humans — they haven't evolved yet"?
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Obama's Pastor the Truth About Him

Now that Barack Obama is the pre-emptive front runner for the Democratic nomination I believe that it's time we start looking more closely into his background. One major area that helps anyone understand who a person really is, is by looking at who has influence in their life. And one of the major influences in Barack Obama's life is his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. But who is Rev. Wright Jr. and what does he teach and believe? After all, if this man has Senator Obama's ear then we have a right to know what kind of counsel he's liable to give a man running for the Presidency of the United States. So I hope that you find the following article insightful. It comes from Newsmax.com and I have pasted the article here for your conveneince. Please visit Newsmax.com and support their sponsors. If anyone has any doubts about the content of this article Google "Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr" I'm sure you'll find the volume of material about Rev. Wright quite stunning. 

Obama Controversial Pastor Retiring



The pastor to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, whose fiery sermons are often seen as racial divisive, plans to retire in May and will apparently assume a lower profile during the height of the election season.

The move could be a political break for Obama, who has repeatedly been asked whether he agrees with Chicago Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr’s black-liberation theology.

Charles Lofton, a spokesman for Trinity United, confirms to Newsmax that Wright plans to retire in May.

Lofton refused to answer any questions about any joint travel plans Obama and Wright may have. [Editor's Note: Read Newsmax's Original Report "Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division" - Click Here]

Wright has occasionally traveled with Obama on the campaign trail. Whether Wright could be playing the role of Obama’s personal spiritual adviser is undetermined.

In an address to a group of ministers in June, Obama described his personal relationship with Wright: “It was ... at Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago that I met Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who took me on another journey and introduced me to a man named Jesus Christ. It was the best education I ever had.”

“What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama told the Chicago Tribune in January 2007, when Wright announced his retirement plans. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics.”

Wright’s message has clearly embraced a black power agenda. “Some white people hear it as racism in reverse,” Dwight Hopkins, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School and a member of Trinity, tells The New York Times. Blacks tend to hear a different message, Hopkins says: “Yes, we are somebody; we’re also made in God's image.”

Several prior remarks by Obama’s pastor have caught the media’s attention:

• Wright on 9/11: “White America got their wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.

• Wright on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway: “Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months.”

• Wright on Israel: “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

• Wright on America: He has used the term “middleclassness” in a derogatory manner; frequently mentions “white arrogance” and the “oppression” of African-Americans today; and has referred to “this racist United States of America.”

Wright’s day-to-day political and spiritual advice to Obama – his sermons have furnished the titles for two of Obama’s books -- may continue on the campaign trail.

Repeated Newsmax attempts to contact Wright for an interview have been met with explanations that “the Reverend is traveling,” during periods when Obama has been bounding back and forth between Washington DC and the early primary states.

During these periods, Sunday sermons at Trinity United were delivered by Rev. Otis Moss III, who has been tapped to formally replace Wright as head of the church when he retires.

But on the rare occasions in the past year when Wright has been available to preach at Trinity United, Obama has been present as well. These virtually identical attendance patterns may not be a coincidence, since Obama continues to describe Wright’s “day-to-day” influence on the rare occasions when Wright is now mentioned.

Wright has also been observed, on at least two occasions, traveling with Obama during the past year.

Wright has been described as “divisive” and a “maverick.” While Obama clearly places a high value on his spiritual and political advice, it may be seen as a prudent maneuver to move him out of his highly-visible role at Trinity United, and into a virtually invisible role in Obama’s private campaign entourage.

Wright arrived at Trinity United in 1972 wearing a red Afro and dashiki robes, and immediately started preaching about “white arrogance,” “the racist United States of America,” and “the United States of White America.”

The church motto, “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian,” was coined by Wright’s predecessor, Rev. Reuben Sheares, and the congregation officially adopted it soon after Wright started his tenure. Obama began attending in 1985, when he noticed the “Free South Africa” sign that had been standing on the church lawn for seven years.

Today, Trinity United boasts 8,500 members. Sunday sermons are broadcast live on cable TV and radio, and rebroadcast on the church website Monday through Friday. Among its more than 80 outreach ministries to various segments of the community is one for gay and lesbian singles, who are often neglected by other churches.

But recently, the church motto, “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian,” and other messages of empowerment have been removed from the Trinity United website.

As Wright’s successor at Trinity United, Moss has taken a more careful and calibrated approach to weaving the black power agenda into the spiritual mission. He practices what has sometimes been described as “dog-whistle politics.”

The term refers to the whistles that are so high-pitched that they are inaudible to humans, but a dog can hear them. Practitioner of dog-whistle politics speak in carefully coded words and phrases that don’t lend themselves well to the unequivocal sound bites seen above, and are clearly understood only by their followers.

All of these maneuvers – replacing Wright at Trinity United with a more subtle preacher of racial divisiveness, toning down the racial empowerment messages on the website, and moving Wright into a behind-the-scenes role in Obama’s personal entourage – seem designed to make Obama more palatable to white voters.

Some professional political observers have given Obama the benefit of the doubt. Jay Stewart, executive director of the Chicago government watchdog group Better Government Association, was contacted by Newsmax via cell phone as he was returning from Springfield, after winning a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.

“I think we should judge Obama on what he says rather than what his former pastor said,” explained Stewart. “I’m not inclined to make much of it. Obama doesn’t screen what the pastor says.” But Obama’s choice of Wright as his personal, “day-to-day” spiritual advisor is well within his control.

Editor's Note: Read Newsmax's Original Report "Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division" - Click Here.

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