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Yes We're Bitter. But Why?

What happened to the message of "Hope and Change"? I think it is dead and BO killed it. His false promises have filled people with sense of doom and gloom, not hope and change. Where is the hope in telling people that they live in a crappy country?
Just think about this, BO's pastor is building a $1.6 million dollar house, with a $10,000,000 dollar line of credit, in a 98% white development. Kind of funny for a men that rants adjust "rich white people".
Some people will ask why does this matter? It matters because, BO used this anti-American, racist preacher to advance his political career. I feel BO didn't attend TUCC for the preaching. He told us all, that he never heard Rev. Wright's offending words and I believe him. But I also believe that BO worked closely with Rev. Wright to gain the street cred to get elected to the State and Federal levels.
What bothers me is that BO used far left pols to move along in the system. The same people that hate our way of life. If you were wondering where the "bitter" remark came from, it came from BO's orbit of friends. The far left looks down on us because we don't understand that they are here to save us from ourselves. So they get frustrated when we "cling to our guns and religion," instead of turning our futures over to them.
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McCain Looking Fine While Hill and Barack Kill

The following is a response to a post by JD's Handsome Son:


You are right that Republicans shouldn't get over optimistic. But you can't start out the campaign with a pessimistic attitude either. John McCain is going to need to have a broad based message. I know that the conservative side of the Republican Party wants him to move more to the right, but if he goes away from the middle, he risks losing independent voters.


Let's face it, people like Rush Limbaugh are always going to dislike John McCain. If this election gets fouled up it's going to be the right-wing of the party that's responsible. John McCain has a long history of being able to reach across party lines and work well with left, right, and the center. This is where the American people are right now.


Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are two of the most liberal members of the Senate. If McCain is allowed to run as a right to center candidate he'll have a better chance in November. But some people on the right keep beating him over the head for working with Democrats. Yet, Barack Obama claims that he's the 'Change' candidate in this race that can reach across the aisle to get things done. But the record shows that he's never done that during his time in the Senate.


You say that there's no fight in John McCain. I really don't know what you want from him. It's way to early in the process to start pulling out the big guns a blast away at the Democrats. Don't you think that Hillary and Barack are doing a good enough job killing each other by themselves? There's plenty of time for McCain to go after the Democratic candidates records, after the Democrats finally settle on Obama or Clinton.


I just don't know what you want McCain to say about Obama since he's not the nominee yet. What's the point of shadow boxing. Now is the time for McCain to get the American people to get to know more about who he is. There's a lot of people that don't know McCain's story. Once Senator McCain gets people to understand who he is, then he'll be able to attack the Democratic candidate.


In politics it's important to define yourself before your opponent does it for you. Right now Hillary and Barack are busy defining each other and you can see the damage its doing to them. So Senator McCain is traveling around the country and introducing himself to people in hundreds of town hall meetings. In the meantime, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are having to defend themselves because of all the negative news that's in the media about them.


So, please don't be so defeatist. The campaign hasn't even started yet. I'm sure that when the time is right the gloves are going to come off, and McCain will do all the fighting that he has to do to win the Presidency in November.

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Response to "I Agree"

Below please find comments I wrote to Adrews comments on my blog entitled Clinton and Super Delegates Go Nuclear

It's nice to know that there's like minded people out there. After reading your comments I agree that the "super delegates" could reach an independent concussion about Obama's electability. 


What I'm afraid of is that no matter how they abandon Obama that there's going to be violence. I believe that people are so emotionally invested in Senator Obama that any outcome that doesn't have him at the top of the ticket is going to trigger a very bad reaction. 


The bad thing is that the "super delegates" would be acting entirely within Democratic Party rules. The thing that really bothers me about these rules is that even after winning the most delegates and the popular vote the nomination can be taken away from the winner. And they call themselves the "Democratic Party". This sounds more like the Communist Party to me.


I'd like to know what the heck the Democratic leadership was thinking when they passed these rules. How can any party allow one group of delegates to be set apart, and above all the other delegates. Why waste the time, money, and effort of going through the nomination process when all the delegates that you've won can be overridden by party bosses and insiders. The "super delegates" should just come forward now and stop wasting the nations time and let us know which candidate they're going to support.


The problem that the Democratics face now is that, no matter what the rest of the primaries produce Hillary Clinton can't win. Under the apportionment system Senator Clinton can't overtake Barack Obama. There just aren't enough delegates left to win the nomination outright. So the only chance Clinton has is to win the popular vote. This would give the "super delegates" the cover they need to throw the nomination to Hillary.


Up until the revelation of the sermons of the "Rev." Jeremiah Wright Jr. I thought there was no stopping the Obama train. But now that we've heard how that for twenty years Barack Obama sat in the pews of this hate filled preacher, maybe people will wake up from this hypnotic spell they've been under for the last several months. 


The question for the Republican Party is which candidate would John McCain do better against? Both the Democratic candidates would present some very difficult obstacles. Both Clinton and Obama are going to play the victim card. Obama's people are going to claim some sort of racism, and Clinton will cry sexism. So McCain people are going to have to walk on egg shells during this whole campaign season.


Thank you for your kind words about my blog. I really do this to blow off stream. I never really expected anyone to take notice of my positions and after reading your posts I see that we have a lot in common. I just hope that we are in the mainstream and not just preaching to the choir.


Below are Andrews comments to my blog:

My one difference from your position is that I don't think it is Hillary driving it.

I think some democratic insiders may actually have independently decided that Obama is not electable and started looking for cover should they go over to Hillary.

After PA and TX, they had that cover, as they could claim that momentum was behind Hillary.

Then came Ferraro and Hillary's mea culpa speech, and that cover vanished.

Now, with this Rev. Wright thing, they may be back in Hillary's corner. It depends on how long it stays in the press, and how poorly Obama continues to respond.

If you are interested, my take is here:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2008/03/14/changing_predici tions.thtml

And my earlier take was here:
http://andrews.blogtownhall.com/2008/03/05/in_the_hands_of_ the_superdelegates.thtml

Essentially I agree with your interpretation, I just think that, though she way benefit from it, not all the energy behind the superdelegate defections is Hillary's. I think some other insiders may be worrying about Obama's chances as well.

And, completely off topic: I have only read two of your posts so far, but I like the blog. 
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Senator Obama talked about on Hannity and Colmes

I am a long time viewer of the Hannity and Colmes program on the Fox News network. When you watch this type of program often I as do, you would think that there'd be a point where you aren't shocked anymore. But I still haven't managed to reach that point yet. It always amazes me how Sean and Allen can just talk past each other. I don't know how you can face someone night after night like these two characters do and totally ignore each other and their guests points of view. All Sean and Allen care about is sticking to their points. 


As a example recently, Sean Hannity has been talking about the close relationship between Barack Obama and his controversial pastor. Sean's point of view is that Obama's pastor is a divisive person and teaches a racially offensive theology that most Christians would totally reject. On the other hand Allen Colmes repeatedly says that people shouldn't engage in guilt by association. 


So here's my problem with how Sean and Allen are handling this subject. With Sean trying to use this issue as a negative point against Obama, he's causing people to become desensitized to how serious this issue really is. And with Allen using the guilt by association argument he's trying to insulate Obama from people looking into the nature of the relationship between him and his pastor.


I think the guilt by association argument is totally specious. Guilt by association is a legal term. It's used to protect people from being considered criminals just because they know someone that's committed a crime. This term was never meant to protect someone from public scrutiny because of the company they choose to keep. And I think that's why if Barack Obama wins the domination of the Democrat Party all the teaching and beliefs the Rev Jeremiah Wright Jr. will need to be examined. As a nation we need to understand why Senator Obama has chosen to have a minister counseling him that has such an extreme spiritual point of view. I wouldn't be so concerned about this issue if it stood entirely alone, but it doesn't.


When you couple the teachings of Senator Obama's church and with his refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin, his refusal to put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, and his wife's remark that "for the first time in her adult life she's proud of America". Then add in the extreme Afro-centric teachings of the Trinity United Church of Christ then you can begin to gain some needed insight into how Barack Obama functions. I'm not saying that the Senator is an evil person because of his pastor and church. However, I believe that Senator Obama has a world view that is outside the mainstream beliefs of the average US citizen. And he certainly doesn't follow the teachings of any mainstream Christian denomination. So if it turns out that Barack Obama ends up being our President I hope that's it only after our country understands the he's not some fresh faced kid from Illinois bringing a message of hope and change. We should all understand that Barack Obama is a person that has influences in his life that don't fit into the vast majority of how our fellow countrymen think and live. Please at least take the time to get to know this candidate before you go out and vote for him.

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Obama's Pastor the Truth About Him

Now that Barack Obama is the pre-emptive front runner for the Democratic nomination I believe that it's time we start looking more closely into his background. One major area that helps anyone understand who a person really is, is by looking at who has influence in their life. And one of the major influences in Barack Obama's life is his pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. But who is Rev. Wright Jr. and what does he teach and believe? After all, if this man has Senator Obama's ear then we have a right to know what kind of counsel he's liable to give a man running for the Presidency of the United States. So I hope that you find the following article insightful. It comes from Newsmax.com and I have pasted the article here for your conveneince. Please visit Newsmax.com and support their sponsors. If anyone has any doubts about the content of this article Google "Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr" I'm sure you'll find the volume of material about Rev. Wright quite stunning. 

Obama Controversial Pastor Retiring



The pastor to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, whose fiery sermons are often seen as racial divisive, plans to retire in May and will apparently assume a lower profile during the height of the election season.

The move could be a political break for Obama, who has repeatedly been asked whether he agrees with Chicago Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr’s black-liberation theology.

Charles Lofton, a spokesman for Trinity United, confirms to Newsmax that Wright plans to retire in May.

Lofton refused to answer any questions about any joint travel plans Obama and Wright may have. [Editor's Note: Read Newsmax's Original Report "Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division" - Click Here]

Wright has occasionally traveled with Obama on the campaign trail. Whether Wright could be playing the role of Obama’s personal spiritual adviser is undetermined.

In an address to a group of ministers in June, Obama described his personal relationship with Wright: “It was ... at Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago that I met Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., who took me on another journey and introduced me to a man named Jesus Christ. It was the best education I ever had.”

“What I value most about Pastor Wright is not his day-to-day political advice,” Obama told the Chicago Tribune in January 2007, when Wright announced his retirement plans. “He’s much more of a sounding board for me to make sure that I am speaking as truthfully about what I believe as possible and that I’m not losing myself in some of the hype and hoopla and stress that's involved in national politics.”

Wright’s message has clearly embraced a black power agenda. “Some white people hear it as racism in reverse,” Dwight Hopkins, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School and a member of Trinity, tells The New York Times. Blacks tend to hear a different message, Hopkins says: “Yes, we are somebody; we’re also made in God's image.”

Several prior remarks by Obama’s pastor have caught the media’s attention:

• Wright on 9/11: “White America got their wake-up call after 9/11. White America and the Western world came to realize people of color had not gone away, faded in the woodwork, or just disappeared as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” On the Sunday after the attacks, Dr. Wright blamed America.

• Wright on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway: “Black women are being raped daily in Africa. One white girl from Alabama gets drunk at a graduation trip to Aruba, goes off and gives it up while in a foreign country and that stays in the news for months.”

• Wright on Israel: “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

• Wright on America: He has used the term “middleclassness” in a derogatory manner; frequently mentions “white arrogance” and the “oppression” of African-Americans today; and has referred to “this racist United States of America.”

Wright’s day-to-day political and spiritual advice to Obama – his sermons have furnished the titles for two of Obama’s books -- may continue on the campaign trail.

Repeated Newsmax attempts to contact Wright for an interview have been met with explanations that “the Reverend is traveling,” during periods when Obama has been bounding back and forth between Washington DC and the early primary states.

During these periods, Sunday sermons at Trinity United were delivered by Rev. Otis Moss III, who has been tapped to formally replace Wright as head of the church when he retires.

But on the rare occasions in the past year when Wright has been available to preach at Trinity United, Obama has been present as well. These virtually identical attendance patterns may not be a coincidence, since Obama continues to describe Wright’s “day-to-day” influence on the rare occasions when Wright is now mentioned.

Wright has also been observed, on at least two occasions, traveling with Obama during the past year.

Wright has been described as “divisive” and a “maverick.” While Obama clearly places a high value on his spiritual and political advice, it may be seen as a prudent maneuver to move him out of his highly-visible role at Trinity United, and into a virtually invisible role in Obama’s private campaign entourage.

Wright arrived at Trinity United in 1972 wearing a red Afro and dashiki robes, and immediately started preaching about “white arrogance,” “the racist United States of America,” and “the United States of White America.”

The church motto, “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian,” was coined by Wright’s predecessor, Rev. Reuben Sheares, and the congregation officially adopted it soon after Wright started his tenure. Obama began attending in 1985, when he noticed the “Free South Africa” sign that had been standing on the church lawn for seven years.

Today, Trinity United boasts 8,500 members. Sunday sermons are broadcast live on cable TV and radio, and rebroadcast on the church website Monday through Friday. Among its more than 80 outreach ministries to various segments of the community is one for gay and lesbian singles, who are often neglected by other churches.

But recently, the church motto, “Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian,” and other messages of empowerment have been removed from the Trinity United website.

As Wright’s successor at Trinity United, Moss has taken a more careful and calibrated approach to weaving the black power agenda into the spiritual mission. He practices what has sometimes been described as “dog-whistle politics.”

The term refers to the whistles that are so high-pitched that they are inaudible to humans, but a dog can hear them. Practitioner of dog-whistle politics speak in carefully coded words and phrases that don’t lend themselves well to the unequivocal sound bites seen above, and are clearly understood only by their followers.

All of these maneuvers – replacing Wright at Trinity United with a more subtle preacher of racial divisiveness, toning down the racial empowerment messages on the website, and moving Wright into a behind-the-scenes role in Obama’s personal entourage – seem designed to make Obama more palatable to white voters.

Some professional political observers have given Obama the benefit of the doubt. Jay Stewart, executive director of the Chicago government watchdog group Better Government Association, was contacted by Newsmax via cell phone as he was returning from Springfield, after winning a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich.

“I think we should judge Obama on what he says rather than what his former pastor said,” explained Stewart. “I’m not inclined to make much of it. Obama doesn’t screen what the pastor says.” But Obama’s choice of Wright as his personal, “day-to-day” spiritual advisor is well within his control.

Editor's Note: Read Newsmax's Original Report "Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division" - Click Here.

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